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vitt
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 16:17    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks andrey

yes I am aware that it comes under the name of RITM Autoscenar, however it seems that there were two models with different frequences....

basically this model: http://www.ritmedic.com/prod_autosc.html is the equivalent to which chans-scenar pls?

would be good to clarify with mr jang de jong for me and i wait for your reply on which model to ask him for, thank you so much
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Yaroshevsky Andrey
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 18:45    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Vitt,
I see...
I just spoke with Jan de Jong.
Actualy he still have in stock the Basic Model of CHENS-Scenar. I didn't know this. I thought they're finished already.
From this year we decided to put only most functional model (01) on Europe market. And Jan de Jong did not updated the website yet with this model.

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however it seems that there were two models with different frequences....


It's not correct. Basic model has only one fixed frequency - 90Hz and 01 model has 4 fixed frequencies (14, 60, 90, 320) which you can choose.

You can check the difference of the Basic and 01 models here:
http://www.scenar.com.ru/production/scenar/tab_chens_e.htm

I asked Mr. de Jong to send you most functional model (RITMSCENAR Home Device - the same as Russian CHENS-SCENAR-01)

Hope now everything comes clear...

BW,
Andrey
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vitt
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 21:44    Post subject: Reply with quote

great work, thanks so much Very Happy I really appreciate your time.

just need to complete the order and wait. will be in touch once I receive the machine and let you know the progress. thanks again, vitt
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Yaroshevsky Andrey
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:00    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fine.
And don't forget to order the small external electrode. In Europe they call it FACE PROBE.
Best wishes,
Andrey
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Kulizhskiy Boris
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 12:47    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Vittoria!
Excuse me for a delay - small technical problems.
Responce.
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adductor tendinopathy/pubalgi

1) Functional loading on limb (you situation - leg). You should feel limitation of movements and exact place of localization of a pain.
2) in FM mode to process only zone of a pain.
3) in 90 Hz (without modulations) in Dosed mode (D). To process a projection unhealthy of a muscle and tendons.
4) Functional loading on limb. To note changes happened after procedure..
5) in 60 Hz (without modulations) in Dosed mode (D). To process a projection f a unhealthy muscle and tendons on symmetric side. (on healthy side).
6) Per day one is recommended one - two procedures.
7) This procedure cannot be combined with cosmetological or over SCENAR-treet.

For cosmetologic i asced later/

Tante belle cose! Dr. Koulizhskiy Boris.
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vitt
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 13:06    Post subject: Reply with quote

dear Dr. Koulizhskiy Boris.

thanks for being so kind, dont have the machine yet but somehow these instruction seem to make sense. Do I need to do the procedure daily at the beginning and how long for? I have had the pubalgia for about 10 months now..

also I am not clear on the meaning of symmetric side? do you mean the leg that doesnt hurt? My pubalgia is bilateral so both legs suffer the same Sad

anyhow I have time to be in touch and experiment.thanks again vitt
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Kulizhskiy Boris
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 16, 2006 13:41    Post subject: Reply with quote

Usually pugalgia is accompanied unilateral irradiation of pain. I write typical causes.
Time for procedure of 15 -20 minutes. Procedures to spend daily. Criterion of a cancellation - improvement of state of health. In any case algorithm same.
1) Physical loading - for localization of a pain (choose that pain on which can to specify by a finger.)
2) SCENAR-treet.
3) Physical loading - for comparison. If the pain has changed - SCENAR, then again loading.
It is important to fix attention on "before" and "after" SCENAR-influence.
When receive the device - begin treatment. There will be questions - ask. You can write to me the letter doctor@scenar.com.ru.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 16:59    Post subject: How to purchase in USA Reply with quote

If this subject is covered elswhere I apologize for being redundant. I am in the USA. What is the best source for purchasing the CHANS-SCENAR-01 or an equivalent machine in the US? If I can't get this machine in the US can I order from Europe or Russia? Do you advise any trainers in the US? Thank you for your time and information. Smile
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Arioch
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 15:56    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too am based in the US and I would like to purchase a CHANS-SCENAR-01, but I want to make sure that I am getting a legitimate device manufacturered from your company. There is a person on EBAY that appears to be Russian who is selling devices that appear to be from your company, but I have no way of knowing for sure.

Do you have any companies or individuals that supply your devices to the United States?

Thanks!
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Dr. Mikhail Unakafow
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 16:21    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Arioch and lillyor!
Unfortunately, today we have no representative offices in the USA and Canada yet.
We're also unaware of neither who is selling the devices at Ebay nor what devices are sold.
We'll send commercial proposals to your e-mails by April 04.
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Arioch
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 21:39    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you I will be looking forward to the response. I also wanted to say that I appreciate your companies responsiveness. Its nice to find information on your forums about your products and see that people from your company regularly respond to inquiries. Your website is also very useful and its nice that you have an english version of it. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 22:33    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am interested in the latest SCENAR professional device. Which one is it?

I am considering:

SCENAR-NT02 (GS)
SCENAR-NT01(GS)

VX735Ag by LET Medical
735 by CCC Invet and
801 V5 by CCC Invet
(it is not clear if the devices by CCC Invet are true SCENAR devices)

I need a SCENAR device that will:

1. Give me audio signal when it has found best spot to treat.
2. Will give me audio signal at end of dose.
3. Will automatically choose and apply correct dose.
4. Will come with clear user manual; preferably electronic.
5. Will have a proven track record for effectiveness of treatment
and good results
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Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2006 14:46    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good morning,

I bought my (SCENAR 97.4+ manufactured by Intermediate Services BV under the licence of OKB RITM) few weeks ago from Leo DeJong .
He is the rep for RITM in USA, which is the original SCENAR manufacturer. Leo has over 9 years experience and has been trained with the best and by the best in the business. I received my original training from him and he is very good. I talked to other people who received there training from “others” and that is who I found him. I already treat few of my family members and I love the SCENAR. Send me an E-mail if you want additional info or how to contact him.
Wishing the best,
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Mike
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